Posts by joey jojo

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Did You Miss Playing Sports?

by Sea Breeze in

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how many of you missed playing sports in school?

the wt was merely trying to keep us from committing suicide.... how loving.take a look at this fear mongering :problems with sports today - g91 8/22 p. 5. .

"people used to argue that sports were of value because they built character.... such arguments sound hollow, even hypocritical.. .

Yep, no sport, no school dances, no school camps, no further education, no worldly friends around to the house after school. You give up everything, including your youth, and when you get older and start asking questions, you lose your jw friends and family too.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

joey jojo

MeanMrMustard:

joeyjojo

'.... I've had a look at the defamation laws in the us and uk, aren't some of you a little concerned about making these accusations on a public forum?'

meanmrmustard:

'No.

It's possible he went there for hot fudge packing action with definitely-older-than-20-year-old gay Jewish black Thai dudes.

Was that an accusation?

Also, he's a public figure. Factual statements must be made with "actual malice", a standard nearly impossible to meet.'

MMM:

No, because 2 consenting adults having sex isnt a crime- in most countries.

From the web

Defamation:

'Defamation means causing serious harm to a person's reputation by publishing material about them that changes the way people feel about them. A person who claims to have been defamed can go to court to get compensation for the harm caused. ... Compensation could be money or a public apology.'

With that in mind, here are a few statements from this thread.

Reservations:

'May I also add, as Lloyd skirted over these issues in his video:

Prostitution is illegal in Croatia

Prostitution is illegal in Thailand

Prostitution funds organised crime, and the vast majority are not doing it by their free will. Organised crime that no doubt leads to the exploitation of children. Prostitution is abusive by nature.

Money sent to Lloyd through his YouTube “activism” has been used for illegal activities, and potentially funding organised crime.

Let that sink in.'

seabreeze:

'Thailand has the dubious distinction of being the world capitol of child sex tourism and child prostitution. These kids are kept in utter slavery through drugs and intimidation. It is a living hell for the most innocent among us - children. If this is his thing, then ANYONE ever watching his videos will be contributing to his VACATIONS and CRIMES against humanity.

...'In other words, why spend a fortune going to Thailand unless you are looking for a specific type of prostitute.'

stephanelaliberte:

'That argument works for small things such as being a heavy smoker, an alcoholic that curses and makes jokes in bad tastes, or even a porn addict! People tend to overcome those things with the rational you provided. But then, cheating your wife with prostitutes and going to Thailand which is known for child prostitution? '

FFghost:

'if WT monitors this site and/or reddit (which they almost certainly do, or pay someone to do), they will 110% use this incident to paint all "apostates" as child-raping deviants to their adherents.'

Diogenesister

'The fact he regularly goes to Thailand is the most egregious part. A place well known for its sex trafficking, especially if minors (he says girls in his response video and quickly corrects himself).'

Please dont think Im defending Lloyd, because Im not. I dont know what he did or didnt do, because I wasnt there. Obviously there are people on this forum he has burned. As a neutral observer, the amount of judgment on this thread is breathtaking.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

joey jojo

Some on this thread have strongly implied/suggested that he has had sex with minors, without any proof. I'm not a lawyer, but I've had a look at the defamation laws in the us and uk, aren't some of you a little concerned about making these accusations on a public forum?

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Snakes walked on legs till the Eden curse Watchtower belief till 1974!!

by Witness 007 in

watchtower 1964 page 352 "....before god cursed it the snake had legs that elevated it off the ground.

god transformed its body so that it ceased to have legs and could move on its belly.".

book "gods eternal purpose"1974 - "god did not put a curse on the whole serpent family...it had only been victimised by satan...".

joey jojo

Some whales have vestigial legs.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

joey jojo

JeffT,

Unless lloyd has a binding agreement to use his youtube funds in a particular way, he can do whatever he likes with them. Content providers are paid by advertisements and if subscribers donate a tip, then thats a bonus, it is a legitimate way to make a living.

It would be like all of us asking Simon for an audit of how he spends the money he makes from this site due to ad revenue.

I dont have a dog in this fight- Ive never met Lloyd.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

joey jojo

He isnt holding himself up as a beacon of righteousness, or pretending to be gods channel. What he does in his personal life is his business- isnt it?

JeffT

"If he was doing this on his own dime sure, but when you solicit funding for your escapades it's wrong."

I dont watch his channel for moral guidance, I watch it for a dissection of whatever subject he happens to be talking about. If people want to give him money for his content, he can do whatever he wants with it, unless it is set up as a charity.

There seem to be some people here he has rubbed the wrong way, which is another issue.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

joey jojo

Havent watched the video yet but Im wondering why people are comparing this guys 'transparency, honesty and truth' to that of JW's.

He isnt holding himself up as a beacon of righteousness, or pretending to be gods channel. What he does in his personal life is his business- isnt it?

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Turning up The Insanity To 11

by FedUpJW in

so a jw elder acquaintance sent me an email "encouraging" me to return to the organization, including this little nugget of a quote from today's wt session,*** w21 november p. 23 par.

11 how strong will your faith be?

***learn to trust those whom jehovah and jesus trust.

joey jojo

Same thing happened to me today, an elder friend sent a message including a link to a video. Is something up? Trying to find the video on jworg.

Well fedup- at least we have friends >.<

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Snakes walked on legs till the Eden curse Watchtower belief till 1974!!

by Witness 007 in

watchtower 1964 page 352 "....before god cursed it the snake had legs that elevated it off the ground.

god transformed its body so that it ceased to have legs and could move on its belly.".

book "gods eternal purpose"1974 - "god did not put a curse on the whole serpent family...it had only been victimised by satan...".

joey jojo

I see a glaring problem with this.

Hasn't God been having a rest day since the creation of Eve. Wouldn't any change made to the physical world since then by God constitute breaking his own law of the sabbath, of which he is supposed to represent the perfect example?

Some poor guy got stoned for gathering sticks on the sabbath but God redesigns snakes, makes manna fall from the sky, creates rainbows, carves the ten commandments, makes the sun stand still and many other miracles that amount to doing 'work' and its fine?

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Biblical Anachronisms in JW Literature

by neat blue dog in

in a recent post ffghost made a comment about how they're always inserting modern concepts into biblical narratives to make it relatable to jw's organization.

here are some that come to mind:.

- the capitalized term "governing body" when referring to the older men in jerusalem (really just another group of christians that paul outspokenly disagreed with and didn't look to for approval).

joey jojo

The year was 1968.

JW illustrations of the time proved that jesus was clean shaven and not a dirty hippy.